tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18827721.post7015012324606369641..comments2023-09-29T05:33:35.867-04:00Comments on Superheroes, etc.: Civility: It's fine and you're stupidMick Martinhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06320185841491084888noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18827721.post-19450785732632379302009-09-17T12:05:21.737-04:002009-09-17T12:05:21.737-04:00Mick, I think you'd make a damn fine columnist...Mick, I think you'd make a damn fine columnist. We have two free papers out here: The Stranger & the Seattle Weekly, which censor themselves a lot less than the "subscription only" Seattle Times. Reading your blog today was like reading one of their columns...I'm just sayin'.The Wanton Gardenerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11701002982873428767noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18827721.post-42341465531727118482009-09-17T11:42:51.587-04:002009-09-17T11:42:51.587-04:00Although I do see many points about race & rac...Although I do see many points about race & racism, I don't think the Kanye West thing was sexist or racist, simply because Kanye has a history of doing this <a href="http://goldderby.latimes.com/awards_goldderby/2009/09/mtv-vma-video-music-awards-kanye-west-taylor-swift-music-news.html" rel="nofollow">all the time.</a>Dinglesnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18827721.post-50423587617767371892009-09-17T11:24:04.526-04:002009-09-17T11:24:04.526-04:00I didn't know about Beyoncé's actions, whi...I didn't know about Beyoncé's actions, which goes to support your final point.<br /><br />As far as the racial/gender issues of what West did, I agree. There's no way he would've done that to a male performer. In fact, if he had done that to a male performer, the story would be quite different. If anything, it would be about how a male artist ALLOWED West to steal the moment from him. <br /><br />But my only point, and race/gender issues aside I think it's true, was that what West did - as far as the civility issue is concerned - was not even close to as bad as the events that have occurred on that ceremony over the years, rendering its newsworthiness a mystery to me.Mick Martinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06320185841491084888noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18827721.post-77265842022358039112009-09-17T11:05:57.999-04:002009-09-17T11:05:57.999-04:00You have to admit, compared to stuff like that, so...<i>You have to admit, compared to stuff like that, some poor little girl having her precious moment stolen from her doesn't seem all that newsworthy. I'm sure her bank account will console her.</i><br /><br />While you seem to see the gender and racial issues in the Williams story, what about here? Can you imagine West jumping up to take the mic from another guy? No, but when it some petite little girl who sings about princes and horses, no problem. The look on her face said it all -- kicked in her gut when the dream of her little life had come true (not to say anything about the quality of that dream or the wretchedness of her music).<br /><br />I wish the <b>real</b> story had been picked up and promulgated instead of inflating West's importance: Beyoncé is a class act. She tried to give that young woman back what was stolen from her by another rampant egomaniac. Brava.C. Margery Kempehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15910282257993793334noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18827721.post-50745730231293459822009-09-17T10:58:27.342-04:002009-09-17T10:58:27.342-04:00I totally agree with you. And once again I fall ba...I totally agree with you. And once again I fall back on the notion that everything is relative. Should we, in general, be more polite? Of course. But look at places like Iraq where people blow each other up when they disagree. If these 3 high-profile incidents are the worst of our nations incivility, then I think we're doing pretty good.Dinglesnoreply@blogger.com